Welcome SteveGilbert TLTG2. Glad you can join us today. Hope you have a microphone and are in good voice! [TWildman] GReetings, I do now have a headset. [Lisa Star TLTG] good [Lisa Star TLTG] sorry steve [Lisa Star TLTG] I will post the link in the chat room for you [Lisa Star TLTG] I am very talented! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] www.ceut.vt.edu [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.ceut.vt.edu/ [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/OLI/FL20070504VaTechCrazyNotCrazy.htm [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.ceut.vt.edu/ [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.ceut.vt.edu/ [SteveGilbert TLTG2] [sally gilbert tlt group] good mike! [Lisa Star TLTG] I can! [Lisa Star TLTG] What is the HOV lane? [Sheila Seaman] Sorry--No microphone. What's the HOV lane? [SteveGilbert TLTG2] High Occupancy Vehicle [sally gilbert tlt group] no kidding [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] what did i need to share? [SteveGilbert TLTG2] In So. Dak. HOV is 2-seater? [sally gilbert tlt group] LOL [sally gilbert tlt group] you sound great! [PCoward] I have no microphone, but I'm here to listen [Charrles Ansorge Univ. of Nebra] Charles Ansorge, Professor, University of Nebraska-Lincoln [Sheila Seaman] Hi, I'm Sheila Seaman, Public Services, Addlestone Library, COllege of Charleston [PCoward] Pat Coward, Canisis College in Buffalo, NY [Karen] Karen Shader, Assistant Director Instructional Technology at UAB [TWildman] Hi, This is Terry Wildman, Assistant Provost for Faculty Development and Assessment at Virginia Tech [Lisa Star TLTG] 1-866-866-244 704-9928# [Lisa Star TLTG] star@tltgroup.org [sally gilbert tlt group] http://www.tltgroup.org/VaTechresources.htm is the TLT Group resopurce page URL [Maureen] We're working on getting a mic, but not today [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/VaTechresources.htm [SteveGilbert TLTG2] You are welcome to scroll up/down, left/right on this page while Sally is talking - that action will not have any effect on anyone else! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Sounds good [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.ceut.vt.edu/ [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.ceut.vt.edu/ [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://s111.ivocalize.net/store/66553835/ppt/46679fe1/x1.swf [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.ceut.vt.edu/ [SteveGilbert TLTG2] SDSU - near Lisa Star! [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] Any thoughts about what support people will need in the next months (for delaye reactions, etc.)? [ToddZakrajsek CMU] Are there any long-term plans for ongoing support?? [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW: response to aquestions about longer term plans... recognize that reactions will extend for many months, perhaps years [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW: Have begun planning for handling the fall semester to accomodate possible needs of students, faculty, communicty - providng resources for faculty to prepare for that period [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW: Also have to plan how to cope with what was a truncated spring term - not only emotionally, but subject matter [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW; Just beginnign to emerge from the "overwhelmed" state [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Lisa: Got an essay from a student - history coures - about a detailed plan for killing a large group of people - he was a prospective elementary school teacher - but he was a freshman so he was "finding his way" and his right to "free speech" had to be upheld; Lisa was totally unprepared (professionally) [John Doolittle AU] x [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] Behavior problems were absentees, students who dominated discussions or said nothing at all [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] A year or two ago, a faculty member got a response to an anonymous survey that 'disturbed him'. That's all I ever heard about the content other than it wasn't a direct physical threat to either the faculty member or a suicide threat. The local Flashlight Online administrator asked us on the faculty member's behalf whether we could tell that institution what IP address the survey response had come from. We talked with Washington State University, which hosts Flashlight Online; they talked with attorneys. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] My observation is that it has only been in the past 5 years or so that faculty workshops about "classroom discipline" have become a littel common in colleges, univs [Maureen] I've seen student behavior requiring campus security to intervene, but it was not in a teaching situation. [sally gilbert tlt group] I had a student who I thought perhaps had been sexually abused. The administration dismissed this. This was prior to the legislation which requires reporting. [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] (cont'd) The outcome: there's an implied contract between all these parties, including the student, to protect anonymity and so a subpoena would be required to report such data. Which leads to a question: any discussion about "free speech" at VT? [PCoward] I have had colleagues who have been stalked or challeged (physically) in a class/teaching situation. Institutional reaction tended toward creating policies (via faculty senate) to give faculty "rights" to safety. [Lisa Star TLTG] I have experienced the stalking issues as well. [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] PCoward, any policies added to make sure those rights happen? [PCoward] The policies were the processes through which teachers could have students removed from the class--a difficult thing to do in a state institution. [Sheila Seaman] One concern that makes a campus different than a normal community is the concentration of people living and working in close proximity. Do we need different policies/laws than the ones in place? [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] Steve, on most campuses do faculty know those options? Is there a place they can find suggestions as to how to respond, whom to contact? [Maureen] Also there are additional issues for those who teach/work evenings, where many of the usual helpers are not there. [Maureen] Ditto for weekends. [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] yes [SteveGilbert TLTG2] great [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.facit.cmich.edu/teaching-central/issues/april07/tragedy.html [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: "Are we safe?" - how get beyond "We don't know?" [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: "Funny" story - studnet reported incident of faculty NOT responding to a CLAIMED bomb-building threat [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Psychologist ("of persuasion") - dont' want to let terrible events lead to undermining sense of security; questionning of too many eccentric but benign behaviors! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Issue of mistaking - for example - Asperger's Syndrome vs. Potentially harmful behaviior! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: "Actionable responses" [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Steve Ehrmann often describes my eamil messages the way Todd just described ... [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Look at the "prompts" - disturbing, provocative excerpts OUT OF CONTEXT [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: 7 Principles; "Know our students" [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Civility in the Classroom [Lisa Star TLTG] I was in a high school classroom last month and the student was browsing ebay on his computers for guns and talking on a gun related chat room. It turns out it was automatic paint ball guns. (In context! - still was not classroom appropriate - but my panic was not as intense) [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/tlt-swg/dangerous.htm [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] Civility in the classroom -- importance underscored even in movies -- i.e, Freedom Writers [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: "Imminent Danger in the Classroom" - try to prepare, rehearse(?) without precipitating exactly what you want to avoid! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Tech options to cope with imminent danger... 911 direct access? [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Try to get faculty to be aware of resources already available to them! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Prepare in advance - but not fearful, panicked.... e.g., better to have student leave to call for help while faculty member stays there [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Knowing resources avail! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Not over-reacting - how utilize limited resources avail? E.g., what about text messaging capaiblity of universal notification? Need to balance investments in prevention vs. damage control! [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.tltgroup.org/OLI/FL20070504VaTechCrazyNotCrazy.htm [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Todd, Terry, Lisa, Sally! [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.tltgroup.org/VaTechresources.htm [Sheila Seaman] Thank you! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Chuck is the king of "LTAs" - Low-Threshold Applications/Activities [randal baier] Ansorge -- always wondered how to say his name! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Sally: Just beginning on this issue, lots more to go! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW: Also thinks we're just beginning and appreciates some of the resources from ToddZ et al... "bewildering array" of suggestions, ideas... how to make that avail to faculty so they can develop cohernet and do-able action plans - BEFORE the next emergency occurs! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW: might need to give more attention to some aspects of classroom practice not attended to in past [sally gilbert tlt group] There's preparation and there's healing and repair. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: you were too quick for me. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Have to think about variety of contingencies, emergencies that can happen so quickly.... [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ - relates issues of diversity - knowing how to respond in the instant [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Sends us back to priorities! What is important in our lives! [sally gilbert tlt group] My brother was sitting next to a child drinking water from a glass which suddenly shattered. My brother hit him on the back - hard. The child spit the water and the broken glass out. This anecdote reminds me that we have impulses which we SHOULD act on in emergencies. No preparation for this one. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Lisa: Todd expanded our "audience" - of who we need to prepare for new emergencies, etc......? [Maureen] Thank you all so much! Terry, our thoughts and prayers remain with you at Va. Tech. [sally gilbert tlt group] As a classroom teacher, I resented being given rubber gloves which I was told I MUST use if any student in my classroom was bleeding. It seemed like a symbol for the changing world. [TWildman] Thanks Maureen! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] New experiment - how we manage the extra 30 miknute "after-thoughts" session in FridayLive! [Dennis] Steve, why do you say that it's harder to communicate across campus today than it was 6 years ago? [PCoward] I echo the thoughts of Maureen. I have been closely following the posting on the POD listersev, and find that it has become a wonderful resource. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] We should add a link to the POD listserv on Sally's web page [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/OLI/FL20070504VaTechCrazyNotCrazy.htm [Bonnie Hunter TLTG] In a K-12 institution, we were informed of special health problems of our students that might impact what happens in the classroom. Do post secondary teachers get that type of info? [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.podnetwork.org/ [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.podnetwork.org/ [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.nisod.org/ Welcome SteveGilbert TLTG2. Glad you can join us today. Hope you have a microphone and are in good voice! [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.podnetwork.org/ [Lisa Star TLTG] Steve we lost your audio [randal baier] OK ... [randal baier] gotcha [randal baier] Krishnamurti would say you've talked just the right amount. [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.podnetwork.org/ [ToddZakrajsek CMU] From the group still here? If you were on an elevator and had 2 "floors" to tell a brand new faculty member something on this topic, what you would you say? [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.nisod.org/ [ToddZakrajsek CMU] That is a good one. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] Don't panic; acknowledge crises; know at least one resource to which you can go yourself or to which you can send a student or colleague; [SteveGilbert TLTG2] SueE: People (faculty) often don't know each other [SteveGilbert TLTG2] NOT lmited to big universities!!! [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TLT Roundtable helped (helps) a little.. could be more. [Sue Espinoza] Agreed about not knowing who's faculty and who's student. :-) [SteveGilbert TLTG2] If you cannot easily distinguish between students and faculty, would it be such a problem if some studetns and some faculty "accidentally" ended up interacting with each other? [Sue Espinoza] Agreed, Todd, about getting to know each other. :-) [randal baier] I don't have a mic - perhaps this was covered in the body of the discussion, but the Cho case seemed particularly poignant since intervention seemed so distant or impossible to accomplish, even though it was so necessary. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] I've never been on a campus at a meeting of more than 15 people( UNLESS lmited to one dept, ) in which any one person already knew the names of all the others [SteveGilbert TLTG2] SteveE and I were shocked to learn that at MIT it is NOT considered unusual for one faculty member to visit another faculty member's class - during a regular session. Many faculty at MIT do NOT realize how unusual this is. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] TerryW - work on connectoin of faculty members among different "precincts" of the university [randal baier] thanks [SteveGilbert TLTG2] ToddZ: Issue of dealing - even with the concept of - "potentially troublesome students" [randal baier] yes, thanks Todd. It is not easy to determine that point [randal baier] one last comment on interactions ... [Eric Kristensen Univ of Ottawa] You may have covered this already, but I find a natural community develops among the cohort at our new faculty orientation sessions, which take place over 5 days during the last two weeks of August. To sustain that sense over time by developing a community of practice, one could build a list serve developed for that cohort [ToddZakrajsek CMU] Eric, [randal baier] I've noticed even in my department, a library, that we don't seem to let each other know about various things going on, even something as simnple as "hey, are you coming to the faculty meeting ..." That's kind of simplistic but you miss a lot of interaction sometimes ... [ToddZakrajsek CMU] Eric, We also try to bring together "newer" faculty members so brand new faculty can learn from those at the university just one or two years. [Eric Kristensen Univ of Ottawa] as we all know, building community outside of the department (and inside, too!) takes effort, and is an investiment over time [Eric Kristensen Univ of Ottawa] and can build capacity to deal with crises [randal baier] although I think we do succeed in communicating with new faculty... [Eric Kristensen Univ of Ottawa] sorry, was in a meeting and just joined recently [ToddZakrajsek CMU] Just glad you are here. [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/ivoc.htm [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/iVoc/PastFuture.htm [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/iVoc/PastFuture.htm#FL%20NCSU%20TLTR [SteveGilbert TLTG2] http://www.tltgroup.org/tlt-swg/FL042007.htm [ToddZakrajsek CMU] Sorry, have to run to yet another meeting... Thanks to all. [Lisa Star TLTG] Thanks Todd - and Terry [randal baier] Thnaks Steve and everyone, Lisa, thanks for reading! Cheers [TWildman] Thanks, enjoyed the discussion [Dennis] thanks [Eric Kristensen Univ of Ottawa] À la prochaine!