Welcome Steve Gilbert TLT Group [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] going to go get my headset [Lisa Star TLTG] Hello [Lisa Star TLTG] I did not hear you - did you hear me? [Lisa Star TLTG] know I hear you [Lisa Star TLTG] yes [Lisa Star TLTG] yes [Lisa Star TLTG] good [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] welcome henry! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Whom would you most like to add to your group of "usual suspects"? [Henry Schaffer] Yes, it is. [Henry Schaffer] I'm listed as Henry Schaffer - is there an easy way to change it to Sarah & Henry? [Henry Schaffer] OK - will do [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] my age [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] okeydoke [Sarah-Henry] I tried several variations on names - and failed with such things as Sarah+Henry, Sarah & Henry as not permitted names. [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] sounds good [Lisa Star TLTG] sounds good [Sarah-Henry] Sarah was supposed to be here by 20 till at the latest!!!! [Sarah-Henry] Sarah will be sitting next to me - snuggling :-) [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] great [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] i don't hear any feedback at all [Sarah-Henry] He didn't mention attending. [Sarah-Henry] Don't have any idea - we invited them. [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] i saw one of those invites - thank you very much for doing that! [Sarah-Henry] did you hear Sarah? [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] sound just fine [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] sarah sounds great [Lisa Star TLTG] Sounds good for both of you [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] Hi Tina! [Tina] hi [Tina] I don't have a mike but I can hear you fine! [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] good. that's the most important thing! [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] i didn'thear sally [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] no sally [Lisa Star TLTG] still nothing [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] headset on mute? [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] nothing again [Sarah-Henry] I also didn't hear Sally [Sally Gilbert] I'm going out and returning! [Lisa Star TLTG] OK [Sarah-Henry] I heard a bit of hiss/dead air [Sally Gilbert] couldn't hear me? [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] no [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] which computer are you on? [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] no sally [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] i can hear you henry [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] you sound good [Sally Gilbert] on my laptop which usually works fine [Patricia Akerman] No I don't have a microphone. [Sarah-Henry] To patricia et all, a decent inexpensive microphone is available from Radio-Shack at $25. [Sarah-Henry] It's a lapel mic with a clip on, and an 1/8" plug suitable for plugging into computers, mp3 recorders, ... [Patricia Akerman] Thank you! [Sarah-Henry] Regarding who is Sarah-Henry, that's Sarah Stein and Henry Schaffer at NC State Univ. The login wouldn't allow me to put in both names. [Tina] Hi I'm Head of Public Services at the University of South Florida St. Petersburg [Sarah-Henry] I put in Sarah's name first - so she wouldn't feel slighted - I'm doing the typing. :-) [Patricia Akerman] Hi, I'm the Faculty Librarian at St. Cloud Technical College in St. Cloud, Minnesota. [Phil HauptmanUNL] No mic [Sally Gilbert] I tried.... [Sarah-Henry] Hi Tina & Patricia, I'd worked with many academic libraries over the years, and have found the library community to be leading most of the efforts in information literacy/fluency! --henry [Sarah-Henry] Wow! I just noticed Carl Malstrom - an old colleague and good friend of both of us! [Lisa Star TLTG] yeah [Sarah-Henry] I hear Sallly [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] except for Sarah & Henry! [Carl Malstrom] Hi Sarah and Henry! I am interested in what you have to say. [sally gilbert tlt group] If you're interested, you shopuld write us to see if any seats have opened up. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] We often give Henry Schaffer an extra "e" for Effort! [sally gilbert tlt group] We can't seem to spell his nbame correctly, though [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] thank you lisa [Sarah-Henry] He's multiprocessisng! [Lisa Star TLTG] For technical problems you can contact me at star@tltgroup.org or 605-996-1443 [Lisa Star TLTG] Yes [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] yea! we can [Tom] I'm a Hokie. On behalf of the VT community, I sincerely thank TLT group and everyone of you for your strong support! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Thanks for being with us today, Tom. [Lisa Star TLTG] http://www.tltgroup.org/VaTechresources.htm [Tom] Thank you, Steve! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] http://www.tltgroup.org/VaTechresources.htm [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] See Chronicle back page this week [Sarah-Henry] Back page of the Review section - dated Apr. 20 [sally gilbert tlt group] It's there [Sarah-Henry] audio level too low to hear [Tom] This is Tom Tu from University of Wisconsin-Superior. I'm sorry for the poor audio. Thank you again! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Hear you! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Yipe! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] [sally gilbert tlt group] Learning can mitigate sadness. How remarkable it is to gather with poeple whose passion and committment are tinged with frustration. It helps to learn together. [Tom] I agree [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Good point. Sometimes the most important element of a TLT Roundtable! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S&H: Non-Geek + Geek - co-leaders for 8 years! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Good design - both perspective, being careful about using both geek and non-geek langauge [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] H&S: ca. 1999, provost was about to make unilateral decision about LMS; new TLTR had quite diverse representation (incl. students) [sally gilbert tlt group] LOL! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Henry's image: Sarah as testosterone driven David to Admin Goliath? [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Sarah had gone to Va. Tech conf 1998... Howard Strauss asserted that universities needed to hire trained actors to replace faculty! SteveG followed and invited people to consider what they "cherished" [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Keep in mind that phrase "the usual suspects" please. [Lisa Star TLTG] It is interesting that the "usual suspects" are different for different people [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Sarah began this role while un-tenured! [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] or maybe that the 'usual suspects' now are different than 5, 10 years ago [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Dec 22: 70+ people assembled voluntarily to discuss Course Mgmt System (1999?) [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Sarah et al got this group to make a reasonable non-confrontational? counter-proposal [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Sarah: "If you dictate, you will alienate" [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] TLTR offered "way to share the blame" for some difficult decisions ... found a constructive path away from a lose-lose confrontation? [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Sarah: describes procedures that represent "the power of the secretariat" - of reporting in a way that enabled more people to feel heard and respected. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Had 2 key tech-oriented vice provosts invovled in that first meeting ... and who wanted to get substantial faculty and staff buy-in as things went forwrad [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Provost had been "over-sold" by a vendor - but was able to back off and permit this process to move forward in a way that built significant consensus [sally gilbert tlt group] It sounds like TLTR did its homework thoroughly [Sarah-Henry] www.ncsu.edu/it/open_source/ [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] NC State is typically immensely fragmented campus [SWG: actually, at the size, structure to get maximum difficulty and minimum benefit from scale] [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: Lots of evidence that NCSU TLTR has made really helpful, effective decisions [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: very open group; Sarah is "facilitator" more than "chair" [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] Not all TLTRs are alike, of course. The NCSU TLTR does not have a fixed membership, while many others do. [Bonnie Hunter] Could you clarify how your TLTR is formed? Is it an official group? To you meet on a regular basis? Do you meet F2F or online? [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: TLTR not good for implmentation; good for deliberation, advising [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H reading quote from Donna Petheridge: uses TLTR and its Listserv as part of her professional work - she is user support person [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: F2F & Listserv work well together... [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] [SWG: NCSU TLTR i]s "hybrid hybrid" [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: Tech polarization of language and attitutdes is ameliorated by TLTR - provides forum in which ALL can speak and be treated respectfull. STILL ARE MANY WHO HAVE NOT EVEN HEARD OF TLTR AT NCSU - AND ARE OFTEN AMAZED AT EXISTENCE OF SUCH A GROUP - RESPECTFULLY COLLABORATIVE AMONG DIVERSE PARTICIPANTS [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: No major IT decision - effecting teaching/learning directly - is made without the ADVICE of the TLTR (even though the TLTR has no authroity) [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: Dean for Undergrad Affairs supports 1 course release per term for this work for Sarah; [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] BOTH listserv and TLTR meetings are open to anyone [in fact, even thsoe outside NCSU can join the Listserv]; F2F not regular, but approx 3/semester; Sarah convenes TLTR F2F in response to activitiy on Listserv [sally gilbert tlt group] Why wouldn't admin value having smart, committed people thinking about knotty issues? [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Pls only send nice photos to Sarah's "h*tst*d" email account. [Alton Banks] Heaven forfend that we "genderfy" the discussion [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: Administrators are accustomed to thinking/working within a "chain of command" and not to finding or gaining advice from those who outside that chain but who have relevant expertise, info [sally gilbert tlt group] you've chosen a particular leadership style [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Not entirely coincidental that "Roundtable" is part of name and quotation I mentioned is from "Once and Future King" - story of Arthur's ROUNDTABLE! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Leadership, meeting running styles, ... often genderfied; TLTR overtly needs more colleagial, more traditinally feminine style. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Biggest frustration: How to broaden participation? [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] S-H: How do others have this or nto? the "cross talk" [Jane Harris UNCG] Thanks all - gotta go [Sarah-Henry] It was great! We'd be happy to do a follow up session. [Bonnie Hunter] I think it's great that they have students as a part of the group! [Patricia Akerman] Thanks so much everyone! [Lisa Star TLTG] Does the TLTR connect to anyone outside of the campus? [Sarah-Henry] Yes - we often have outside participants. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] For sure!!!! [Lisa Star TLTG] thank you! [Rebecca Kurtz TLT Group] drive safely! thanks Henry and Sarah [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] bye [Tom Tu] Thank you! Bye! [Alton Banks] Good bye all. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Thanks for being here today Tom, Alton [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Thanks to Patricia & Jane, too. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] ideas for future FridayLives! kurtz@tltgroup.org [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] www.tltgroup.org/oli/20070420FL-TLTR-NCSU.htm [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] And the more of you who tell us what you like/dislike about these sessions, the better we can make them. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] "How to deal with homework in conjunction with course meetings" means How to enable/encourage participatns/students to DO the prep/assignments outside of course meetings! [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Lisa: connecting TLTRs with each other across institutional boundaries? [sally gilbert tlt group] good idea [Lisa Star TLTG] yes [Carl Malstrom] In NC there is a TLT group in the General Administration of the UNC System that includes all 16 campuses and some other institutions. [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] They are a TLT Group subscriber [Carl Malstrom] I do not know. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] BonnieH: 3 session series online about TLTRs - mentors, fostering connections among/across TLTRs!!!! explore TOGETHER some of the challenges experienced by many/most TLTRs! [Carl Malstrom] I need to go. Thanks to Steve and all. [sally gilbert tlt group] Metta: Would you be willing top share yopur concern? [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Pretend its from someone else! [Metta Alsobrook UTD] yes, please share it [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Run FridayLive or Workshop about HOW to launch a TLTR under conditions of lack of trust, comfort with having a non-heirarchical structure that might accumulate some power [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] I've heard instance of provosts who wanted a TLTR to be created, but took gentle and indirect steps so that the faculty wouldn't be suspicious of it as a tool of the administration [Metta Alsobrook UTD] Steve.. good idea. [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] Very important about WHO and HOW it gets started.... initial "steering group" [Yvette Mankato MN US] I would like to see a division of the TLT group so that one level would deal with more information on developing technological components for our classes and resources for faculty. [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] Yvette, can you explain a bit more about what you'd like to see? [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] For example, what would the other level be? That'd help me understand. [Lisa Star TLTG] Yvette - are you asking for 2 types of resources. Professional faculty development and then another area such as Planning: Visions, Strategies [Yvette Mankato MN US] Yes [Steve Gilbert TLT Group] AHA! So we should also clearly indicate which of these two major directiosn is being addressed most in a partciular event? [Yvette Mankato MN US] Please [sally gilbert tlt group] september [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] we're doing some things for individual faculty in subscriber-only services. We just offered a free webcast for faculty at subscriber institutions on using surveys to help improve their teaching, for example. [Steve Ehrmann TLT Group] I've got to go. See you next week! [sally gilbert tlt group] ha [Lisa Star TLTG] Thanks to everyone